Donald Trump! A new format this week and the first time talking about politics on the show.

Michael Chapman and Michael Hanson sit down to have a balanced debate and discussion about this very controversial figure.

But the central theme to the whole debate is dialogue.

In many parts of the world we’ve lost the ability to have sensible discussion about things we disagree with, and when this happens, society begins to break down.

So even though the two Michael’s disagree on many things about the former president, they agree on one thing, differences of opinion are part of life, and they are healthy, when discussed in an open and respectful way.

We hope you enjoy the show. Let us know what you think!

To find out more about Michael Chapman and a couple of the things we discuss:
– Michael’s LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/3mhyfd7v
– President Joe Biden on Jay Shetty’s podcast discussing family values: http://tinyurl.com/5n885kds
– Jordan Peterson Discussing Trump on a podcast: http://tinyurl.com/bdhddasw

Podcast Chapters:
0.00 – Intro
2.35 – Why Are We Having this Conversation?
12.35 – Where Trump and Cancel Culture Come Together
24.39 – Choosing Between 2 Evils and the Latino Debate
35.00 – When Did the Problem Begin?
42.08 – The Agenda vs the Person and Looking at the Vote
47.05 – The Victim Mindset and the Politically Correct
51.22 – Do We Have a Political Crisis?
56.55 – Let’s Learn from Each Other
58.48 – Outro and Takeaways